Sig 365xl Vs Glock 19 - For a lover of DA/SA autos and sassy revolvers, the Sig P365 XL seems like an odd choice. But I can't deny that this is a great gun. In this review, I look at what I learned about the P365 XL after 2000 rounds and a couple of things that could have been improved.
The Sig Sauer P365 XL is easily the most impressive new pistol I've tested in a long time. Today I want to talk about why it is quickly becoming one of my favorite options for concealed carry.
Sig 365xl Vs Glock 19
This pistol enters a whole new category of concealed semi-autos. They are not single stack and they are not double stack either. They are somewhere in between.
Sig P365xl Grip Module (wcp365xl), Black, No Manual Safety
Let's go back to the 1990s - the days of the amazing double stack. At the time, a compact pistol was a double-stack full-size pistol with the grip cut off and the slide and barrel shortened slightly. For a subcompact, they just shortened it a bit more. We see perfect examples of this in some of the most popular cars of the time; the compact Glock 19 and the subcompact Glock 26. When every other gun company started making their own polymer pistols in the early 2000s, they followed the same basic template.
Then, a few years ago, the polymer single stack 9mm came along and shook things up. In 2012, the Smith & Wesson Shield wasn't the first, but it was the gun that took the only new battery from niche status to one of the most common types of carry guns in the country. Since then, we've seen dozens of single-stack polymer 9mm pistols come from all corners of the industry. And now we are all sick of them. Especially those of us who have to evaluate and review these things for a living.
In January 2018, Sig Sauer saved us from this endless tedium with something a little different: the P365. It looks like one stack of nuts. It is the same size as one stack of nuts. But somehow they managed to fit ten rounds into this little magazine clown car. The standard single stack 9mm magazine holds 6-8 rounds, but it is not a single stack magazine. The top three or four rounds in the magazine are stacked on top of each other, but then the mags tap out and at the bottom the rounds are stacked as a double stack.
The gun was a huge success. He won all kinds of awards. There were some reliability issues early on, but the worst of them seem to have been resolved after the first year or so. Last May, Sig released a version with an ambidextrous, frame-based manual safety. And last July they released this version: the Sig P365 XL.
Naked Mck Kit
It has the same slim profile as the original P365, but with a longer barrel and slightly longer grip for recessed 12-round magazines. Sig also makes a 15-round extended magazine. It's about 3 ounces heavier than the standard P365 at 26.3 ounces loaded. Most of that extra weight comes from the longer slide and barrel, which is 3.7 inches instead of 3.1. Available with or without a manual safety, this one has a safety. It has the XSeries Direct Trigger, which is only available as an aftermarket upgrade for the original P365, but is standard on the XL. And it also has, as usual, a set of Sig X-RAY3 night sights and a slide that is machined to accept a micro red dot optic.
It's worth asking why I'm interested in this gun in particular, or the P365 in general. I'm happy to carry an expensive muzzleloader most of the time. A glorious single stack with an extra round or two in the magazine doesn't do much for me. If I'm going to seriously consider a carry gun for my personal use, it has to be very easy to shoot, very easy to carry, and it has to meet my personal safety standards. I will return to the first two in a moment. Let me get the safety thing out of the way first. Or maybe "risk management" is a better term.
If you have been watching my videos for a while, you know that for semi-autos, I prefer hammer guns, whether they are double action, double action or single action. I like being able to lock the hammer with your thumb so it is physically impossible to fire the gun while cocked. The Striker control kit available for Glocks is the next best option. It does the same thing as a hammer when you split. A manual safety is a distant third choice, but depending on how it's designed, I'll consider it for a carry gun.
I do not think that safety is for everyone. I'm especially hesitant to recommend a manual safety for a new shooter or anyone who doesn't practice very regularly. But I'm going to draw and hold a carry gun thousands and thousands of times, both in dry practice and on the range. Every redesign has the potential to be a catastrophic disaster. All it takes is distraction: a short attention span.
Mod1 Sig P365/xl Iwb Kydex Holster System
So, in addition to following best practices for safe gun handling and safe recoil, I like to have at least one additional layer of mechanical safety to mitigate the risk. I especially like it if this extra layer doesn't affect the use of the gun. Whether or not this manual safety is debatable.
I'm going to pour a lot of love on this whole gun and talk about how awesome it is. But this manual safety is not good. It's not terrible at all. It's not like the poor little dot of safety you find as an option on the Smith & Wesson Shield. And it's not as bad as that weird safety on the LCP .22 LR I talked about a couple of weeks ago. It has a good click on and off and is ambidextrous. It could still be so much better. It is not wide enough and should be placed about a quarter of an inch further on the frame.
I don't know why the gun companies keep fighting this. I think it's further evidence that the people who make these design decisions don't fire the guns. There are many examples of good hand safety, so there is no excuse for not knowing what it should look like.
I mentioned the safety of the M&P 22 Compact earlier. This is excellent security. It's not big at all, but it's wide enough that you can put your thumb on it while shooting. When you raise the gun, the thumb knob naturally comes down on top of the safety to fire it. You can't lose it. P365 security is barely big enough to use, and small enough that I miss it on the first try now and again. And if I put my thumb on it, that sharp edge on the back touches my thumb as the gun rises.
Long Term Sig Sauer P365 Review + P365 Xl Reviews
At first this was just annoying, but in a long session, it will cut my thumb a lot. Right now, I have a small blood blister that is under the scar tissue from the first few times it happened. Honestly, I could live with this if the safety was wider and easier to disassemble. Sig, please take some of that sweet money from spending $50 each for these mags and give it to your R&D team so they can fix this security.
The Sig P365 XL's appeal isn't just that it's small and therefore easy to carry. There are many small guns. This gun is small and can be fired. And it's small in a different way than other guns. Let's look at some size comparisons so I can show you what I mean.
Here on the right is the most ubiquitous compact 9mm in the world, the Glock 19. On the left is a single stack Glock 9mm, the Glock 43. Not the smallest 9mm out there, but I think it is among the nine least that is still reasonable. burning
I'm going to go over those two and line up with the grip tip. This is the top part of the grip where the hand net would go. The 43 obviously has a shorter slide and grip and the trigger reach is also slightly shorter.
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If we look at them from the back, the 43 is much thinner. I measured the widest part of the grip, not including the magazine well and it is 0.81 inches for the 43 and 1.31 inches for the 19.
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